Hambone61

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Oregon
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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2009 2:36:41 PM
Why don't we try something different, you and I.
Let us tell the "government" to do the job that the framers of the country intended for them to do and stay out of the rest of it, and in the bargain, stay out of our pockets as well.
Can you name all the different divisions of government? You will be a while trying to find out what they are. This is what is bankrupting the country.. the government is grown past the people's ability to pay for it! Think about this!!
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pugman

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St. Louis
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Message Posted: Jan 29, 2009 5:33:02 AM
Let's see, the "Big 2 ½” have not made very many fuel efficient vehicles for the past 30-40 years but the Japanese have been providing them to us and now we are seeing more of the “Big 2 ½” closing plants and laying off employees. Was it our (The Consumers) fault that has made them loose money by not buying their gas guzzlers when we wanted a fuel efficient vehicle? I say: NO! Did we need “Big Brother” to pressure them to make fuel efficient vehicles? NO! “WE” (The Consumer) have been the one’s telling them what we want and since they did not listen, they are paying the price.
Sorry, but the truth hurts. WE NEED LESS GOVERNMENT AND MORE COMMON SENSE!
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99dakota

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Providence
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Message Posted: Jan 28, 2009 5:08:29 PM
oppose.
Government is not the solution to the problem, government is the problem Ronald Reagan
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YB1234

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Jan 28, 2009 3:56:25 PM
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YB1234

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Jan 28, 2009 3:56:19 PM
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YB1234

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Jan 28, 2009 3:56:14 PM
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YB1234

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Jan 28, 2009 3:55:59 PM
Favor, if they would use it for that and not something else
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YB1234

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Jan 28, 2009 3:55:44 PM
Favor, definitely!
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rjr54

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Winnipeg
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Message Posted: Sep 1, 2008 7:14:31 PM
The existing rules are fine. However, they should close the loop hole and put everything with more than 3 seat belts into the same classification as cars. And apply the same rules. The car companies would have to improve fuel economy of the entire fleet of passenger cars, real cars, SUVs and pickup trucks with back seats. I guess horse power would suffer - how could anyone survive in a vehicle without a hemi? :-)
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Quazar911

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Texas
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Message Posted: Aug 31, 2008 11:50:51 PM
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Z51Corvette

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Austin
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2008 9:19:50 AM
Favor... but standards need to be realistic
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pugman

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St. Louis
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Message Posted: Jul 1, 2008 7:26:00 AM
Let's see, the "Big 2 ½” have not made very many fuel efficient vehicles for the past 30-40 years but the Japanese have been providing them to us and now we are seeing more of the “Big 2 ½” closing plants and laying off employees. Was it our (The Consumers) fault that has made them loose money by not buying their gas guzzlers when we wanted a fuel efficient vehicle? I say: NO! Did we need “Big Brother” to pressure them to make fuel efficient vehicles? NO! “WE” (The Consumer) have been the one’s telling them what we want and since they did not listen, they are paying the price.
Sorry, but the truth hurts.
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gasisoutrageous

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Lansing
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Message Posted: Jul 1, 2008 4:49:13 AM
I'm all for it!
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roadkillGA

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Georgia
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Message Posted: Jun 21, 2008 8:47:25 PM
What's to favor, There are loop holes and it's up to the consumer to put the pressure on car makers. Dealers don't like loosing money and having to pay property tax on inventory. At the same time unions don't like layoffs because it hurts their dues. So WE need to push for better products. Japan came in 20 years ago and underminded steal and auto industry.
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pugman

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St. Louis
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2008 7:09:31 AM
OPPOSE! WE NEED LESS GOVERNMENT AND MORE COMON SENSE!
We (The Consumer) can make the auto industry provide fuel efficient vehicles! All we have to do is start demanding them. It does not take Government intervention to make a producer of consumer goods change what they offer to the general public! If we (The consumers) want vehicles that get better fuel economy and we ask the producers for them, then they will start providing them or go out of business. Kinda like what is happening to the Big 2 ½ right now in North America.
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Philmar

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Cleveland
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Message Posted: Jun 9, 2008 3:31:30 PM
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alsal55

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Apr 14, 2008 6:41:10 AM
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pugman

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St. Louis
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2008 6:41:10 AM
OPPOSE! WE NEED LESS GOVERNMENT AND MORE COMON SENSE!
We (The Consumer) can make the auto industry provide fuel efficient vehicles! All we have to do is start demanding them. It does not take Government intervention to make a producer of consumer goods change what they offer to the general public! If we (The consumers) want vehicles that get better fuel economy and we ask the producers for them, then they will start providing them or go out of business. Kinda like what is happening to the Big 2 ½ right now in North America.
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YB1234

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2008 4:48:20 AM
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YB1234

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2008 4:48:15 AM
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YB1234

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2008 4:48:06 AM
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YB1234

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2008 4:47:55 AM
Favor, if they would use it for that and not something else
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YB1234

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2008 4:47:36 AM
Favor, definitely!
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Quazar911

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Texas
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2008 12:43:11 AM
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Blubberpuppy

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Baltimore
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2008 10:28:37 AM
Absolutely necessary and only 30 odd years late. And when they eventually reach the goals set for them, they should be compelled to new lower standards again.
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pugman

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St. Louis
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Message Posted: Mar 3, 2008 6:45:01 AM
OPPOSE! WE NEED LESS GOVERNMENT AND MORE COMON SENSE!
We (The Consumer) can make the auto industry provide fuel efficient vehicles! All we have to do is start asking for them. It does not take Government intervention to make a producer of consumer goods change what they offer to the general public! If we (The consumers) want vehicles that get better fuel economy and we ask the producers for them, then they will start providing them.GasXing, “Favor as long as the technology is there to accomplish the task.”
We already have the technology, we just don’t want to use it in North America!
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Guido4

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Pensacola
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Message Posted: Mar 3, 2008 3:37:38 AM
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kreal1

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Houston
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Message Posted: Feb 16, 2008 2:44:13 PM
favor.... every lil bit helps!
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Quazar911

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Texas
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2008 4:19:11 AM
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c47

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2008 3:39:13 AM
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thinkaboutit

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Colorado
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2008 12:04:48 PM
Setting standards is not communism. (Communism would be setting prices or micro-managing how to achieve the goals.) Some people don't even like democracy any more. If 51% like a law and 49% don't, you cannot take the communism excuse, if you support the losing opinion, you still have to abide.
Higher fuel efficiency is the strongest weapon for fighting otherwise even higher fuel expenses - should have been done years ago!
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Guido4

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Pensacola
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Message Posted: Jan 4, 2008 6:02:27 AM
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pugman

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St. Louis
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Message Posted: Dec 27, 2007 6:07:36 AM
I’m with you 99dakota!
OPPOSE! WE NEED LESS GOVERNMENT AND MORE COMON SENSE!
We (The Consumer) can make the auto industry provide fuel efficient vehicles! All we have to do is start asking for them. It does not take Government intervention to make a producer of consumer goods change what they offer to the general public! If we (The consumers) want vehicles that get better fuel economy and we ask the producers for them, then they will start providing them.GasXing, “Favor as long as the technology is there to accomplish the task.”
We already have the technology, we just don’t want to use it in North America!
Quazar911, “I think car manufacturers will continue to drag their feet on fuel economy improvement as long as they can without government mandation”
And you see what is happening to the Big 2 1/2 ? They are loosing the top spots in the market.
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ED6

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Riverside
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2007 3:19:38 PM
Favor.
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99dakota

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Providence
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Message Posted: Dec 9, 2007 5:08:17 AM
strongly oppose, government intervention into business is called communism. we all know how that turns out
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Dorkchop

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Maryland
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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2007 6:21:04 AM
They should get done what should have been accomplished over the last 30 years.
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nyuknyuk49

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Rhode Island
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Message Posted: Nov 29, 2007 5:32:58 AM
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Quazar911

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Texas
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Message Posted: Nov 29, 2007 5:26:01 AM
Favor-I think car manufacturers will continue to drag their feet on fuel economy improvement as long as they can without government mandation
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Guido4

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Pensacola
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Message Posted: Nov 8, 2007 3:42:55 AM
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buddydill

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Kentucky
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Message Posted: Nov 2, 2007 3:34:15 PM
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buddydill

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Kentucky
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Message Posted: Nov 1, 2007 6:39:00 AM
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buddydill

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Kentucky
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Message Posted: Nov 1, 2007 6:38:20 AM
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GasXing

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Grand Rapids
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Message Posted: Oct 22, 2007 10:47:33 PM
Favor as long as the technology is there to accomplish the task.
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buddydill

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Kentucky
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2007 1:28:02 PM
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buddydill

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Kentucky
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Message Posted: Oct 17, 2007 12:47:57 AM
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pugman

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St. Louis
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2007 8:10:40 AM
OPPOSE! WE NEED LESS GOVERNMENT AND MORE COMON SENSE!
We (The Consumer) can make the auto industry provide fuel efficient vehicles! All we have to do is start asking for them. It does not take Government intervention to make a producer of consumer goods change what they offer to the general public! If we (The consumers) want vehicles that get better fuel economy and we ask the producers for them, then they will start providing them.
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buddydill

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Kentucky
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2007 11:40:19 PM
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throttle

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Maryland
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2007 5:40:40 AM
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buddydill

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Kentucky
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2007 2:23:24 AM
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buddydill

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Kentucky
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Message Posted: Oct 6, 2007 9:25:35 PM
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